The committee of the LLAIA have resigned. The resignation letters are posted here on this Blog. Brian Smith resigned the week before which obviously had others thinking about their position. Peter Lyons who was the LLAIA Vice Chairman resigned, the reasons are stated in his resignation, others followed quickly after this including the chairman of the LLAIA.
Chairman vice chairman and all committee members were unpaid voluntary workers for the LLAIA. The majority of the committee had been active over some 12 years carrying out an incredible amount of work unselfishly over this period.
RESIGNATION LETTERS
Brian Smiths letter of resignation.
Guys,
You have probably noticed that I have not attended the last two committee meetings or this one either or participated in the e-mail chatter.
Due to a change of circumstances i offer my resignation to the committee.I have only managed to fish the system twice this past season although still managing a couple of salmon on those days.
I feel I am letting you all down at this time but have to prioritise my responsibilities with my family coming first and sports having to come a poor second, so at this time I would be grateful if you would accept this as my letter of resignation from the committee of LLAIA.
I would like to thank you all for the knowledge gained, the friends I have made and the uncountable major problems we overcame together. My ten years on the committee have seen people come and go with the “old stalwarts” remaining (I’m not sure if I had became one!) after ONLY ten years.
I enjoyed the cut and thrust of the meetings with Peter usually leading the way with the cuts and Mike with the thrusts, I’m glad to see Peter is coming back to his old self, it’s a true reflection of his determination and character and I will miss his ability to gain clarity where there is chaos. Again it has been a pleasure and a learning curve working together and you may not believe this but I will miss you all, well not at ten to midnight on a Thursday night!
So with that I wish you all the best with the latest problem and the forthcoming AGM and you “old stalwarts” will always have a friend in me.
Thanks……..
Brian.
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Peter Lyons the vice chairman’s letter.
As you know I have been a member of the LLAIA for 27 years and on the committee for over the last 12 of those years. I have been vice-chairman for the last 7 years and consider that overall my time on the committee has encompassed the most successful period of the LLAIA’s history.
However the events of the last 9 months have left me totally disillusioned at the conduct of some full members and Leven ticket holders who have managed by their petty squabbles and unceasing vitriol directed at the committee and the chairman in particular, to demolish the very thing which actually secured and maintained their fishing. I am sick reading about how the Committee have done this, or not done that, and how they should really have concentrated on the other.
Over the last 2 years I have watched silently as our efforts as a Committee have been ridiculed and publicly vilified by a succession of people on the so called Discussion Forum, most of whom I have never met, and who from behind the cover of an assumed name have on numerous occasions accused this Committee of various transgressions including miss-appropriation of LLAIA funds, falsifying of expenses, Tax evasion, non declaration of legitimate committee expenses, making gifts of LLAIA equipment, incompetence in committee matters, lying in statements made in respect of VOLDAC members, lack of respect in the aftermath of the recent tragedy on the Loch, generally not being fit to warm a Committee chair, etc., etc.
At the 04 December meeting held to allow questions to be asked of the Committee with regard to the recent unrest, none of the main malcontents appeared, and only 27 other members thought it important enough to waste 2 hours of their precious time to show their support or otherwise for the present committee.
Today it continued with the long awaited VOLDAC Committee statement declaring that they totally endorse the version of events relayed to them by “Honest Stewart“, and discount the statements of the other LLAIA Committee members present at the same meeting who have collectively published a different account of events and who by inference now are not honest men.
I am not prepared to sit and debate my honesty with any member of the VOLDAC Committee under these circumstances and if, as it seems, they have already decided which view they accept, what is the point anyway?
Fortunately the evidence speaks for itself as to the actual facts of the matter, as laid out in the previous LLAIA Committee statement, unless you chose to believe that the LLAIA Committee collectively hatched an elaborate plot to discredit one poor honest man, whom most didn’t even know at the time.
However there is always room on Committees for good “honest” men. I am sure that VOLDAC will find now gainful employment for him on their own Committee.
In my view, rather than accuse the whole LLAIA Committee of lying, it would have been better if the VOLDAC to disclosed if S. Ingles was acting on his own initiative and overstepped the mark, or whether he was acting on instructions from VOLDAC Committee in which case it is them who are responsible for developments thereafter .
Anyway, I have decided that in the circumstances I am not interested in continuing and am going back to being a salmon fisherman. I am not prepared to continue be the target of the rubbish spouted by imbeciles whose ignorance is matched only by their own laziness.
There will be many members wondering how this situation has developed, and the answer is Membership Apathy.
Until the members of this Association find a way to deal with the small number of persistent moaners who for entirely personal reasons are dragging the good name of LLAIA through the mud, it is not likely that it will ever be more than a collection of selfish individuals ready to fight each other at the first opportunity and careless of the damage their actions cause. Getting a cheap ticket is all that matters to them.
I therefore resign my position as Vice chairman LLAIA with immediate effect, and will arrange later for return of whatever LLAIA equipment I may have.
I know that we usually just sell all LLAIA equipment and keep the proceeds, but somebody might be watching.
Yours, Peter A Lyons.
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Dave Sunman’s Letter of resignation
Following the meeting of 04 December, and having taken a few days to consider, I have come to the conclusion that I have to re-assess my position as to whether I can continue as a member of the LLAIA Committee.
In particular the events of the last few months and the defamatory comments and untrue allegations made by Robbie Redball and others on the so called Discussion Forum have left me with no desire to continue my voluntary efforts for the Association.
Following various untrue statements and inferences of a personal nature made by the owner and moderator of the Discussion Forum, I find myself in the position of having to defend myself against allegations of lack of respect following the recent loch tragedy together with being falsely accused of writing the “Any-one for Chairman” article which recently appeared on the LLAIA website.
The turn out of members at the 04 December meeting was abysmal with only 27 persons feeling it important enough to attend. And although the members were supportive of the current committee the numbers were very disappointing,
I do not feel that the level of interest and support of the members deserves the level of commitment required of a committee member, and I therefore resign with immediate effect.
The way is now open for the authors of all the criticism to show the members how it should be done.
I suspect the silence will be deafening.
Yours, Davy Sunman
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The fishery manager Angus MacRitchie’s letter of resignation.
Chairman and fellow committee members,
It is with some regret that I too feel the need to tender my resignation from the L.L.A.I.A. committee forthwith for the reasons covered in the Vice Chairman’s letter. I understand Peters decision and the reasons, including apathy, that have brought both him and I to this point.
If a committee of volunteers gives of their time and effort over many years to help keep the association strong and in safe hands on behalf of its membership and is supported by so few of the membership turning up at “the anglers night out” to ascertain the facts from the rumour is very disheartening.
I am not aware of any other angling association who puts up with being constantly criticised and vilified on a public website forum on every aspect of association business.
I also don’t like the association being threatened by this website web master to report the association and its committee to various authorities in an effort to try and undermine and destroy the association by unsupported allegations and hearsay.
I and other members of this committee have served this association well for many years and I fully accept that if the membership do not wish to support us that is their prerogative. As Peter says its time for all these experts to stand up and put themselves forward and seek the support of the membership.
As regards the hatchery I will of course continue to oversee the running of all hatchery aspects until the fry are finally placed in the streams or until requested to stand down by any new committee.
Angus.
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Duncan Ferguson’s letter of resignation.
Michael, fellow members of LLAIA Committee, It is with great disappointment that I have read firstly Peter’s resignation, then Davy’s and Angus’. However, I fully understand their very real concerns and know that they will have thought long and hard before they arrived at their decisions. Like most of the present committee I have been in there since the beginning and can honestly say that I’m very, very proud of what we achieved in that period of time.
I agree completely that there’s a limit to what we’re expected to swallow from the keyboards of faceless, gutless, anonymous individuals. Tuesday the 4th’s Partick Burgh Hall meeting while of benefit to most of the few who turned up, really highlighted what appeared to be a serious lack of interest by our considerably large membership. For me this also put the tin hat on it!!
I fully support Peter,Angus,Davy’s decision to resign and now tender my resignation with immediate effect.
Like Davy said “Have a great Christmas and Happier New Year.”
Best wishes, Duncan.
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Gary Weirs letter of resignation.
Gents,
I am dissappointed that it has come to this. I have been thinking about resigning my position on the committee for some time now, but for entirely different reasons. I see no point in holding a seat at meetings when, due to work and family committments, I cannot find the time to do anything of real benefit for the committee and wider membership of the LLAIA. For this reason only, I am resigning my position as LLAIA committee member with immediate effect.
For those that remain on the committee, I wish you all the best in your future endeavours to protect and improve the fishings for our members and associate members.
Kindest Regards,
Gary.
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Colin McCrory’s letter of resignation.
Following Peter’s resignation I now feel that I have no option but to follow his example and tender my resignation.
I have also been on the committee for 12 years. I have been a member for 22 years and have been immensely proud of the way that we have turned the Association round and maintained a balanced approach to management of the system. I have personally played my part acting as Secretary and Treasurer during the initial years of our tenure when I made enormous sacrifices holding down a full time job and working evenings and weekends for the Association on a voluntary basis.
The final straw for me was the apathy shown by the membership on Tuesday night (4th December) when they had the opportunity to meet us and air their grievances or voice their support. 27 turned up which was very disappointing for me. There are some hard decisions to be made and it is now imperative that the membership play their part and don’t just leave it to the faithful few.
I do realise that many people have no interest in the politics of running the Association but am disappointed that so few came to our support when we really needed it. Those on the outside throwing stones have a lot to answer for but I am personally no longer prepared to accept their castigation.
It is with deep regret that I tender this resignation but I feel it is impossible to run the Association sensibly when there are people who are prepared publicly to vilify our every move.
I do worry about the outcome of all of this but feel I have no more to offer in the current climate.
Yours sincerely
Colin McCrory
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Alistair Mairs letter of resignation.
I also am resigning at this time and agree with Peters reasons for resigning.
regards
Alastair Mair
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Michael Brady’s letter of resignation.
Resignation of my position as Chairman of the LLAIA
It is with a great deal of sadness that i now tender my resignation as chairman of the LLAIA.
I first came on to the committee of the LLAIA Back in 1982. I was able to witness the shocking way in which the LLAIA was run and equally important the manner in which the whole system was being managed. I replaced their death trap facility they called “a hatchery”, which was 60 miles away. Cured the hidden massive mortalities that were experienced then and tried to point out to others in control of the bailiffing and finances that changes must be made or the association would collapse. I left once it became obvious that i was not allowed to see the finances and those dealing with our largest expenditure (the bailiffing) were neither willing nor capable of dealing with the huge wastage that was going on in that department. At that time i seriously doubt it made much difference to fish stocks though, as runs of fish were reasonably good then as marine mortality was low in comparison to the current climate. During that whole period i never once claimed any expenses and even hired vans and paid for wood to build the hatchery stands. Designed and built at a fraction of the cost a complete new hatchery system, which is still in use today. The weekly journeys to and from my home to Inversnaid during the winter months were all done free of charge.
Then in 1995 i was approached by two members of the association if i would become involved again with the LLAIA as chairman of the SIWG (Stock Improvement Working Group) and then if all went to plan move on to become chairman of the LLAIA. In short i was “asked to become chairman” and i voluntarily accepted the huge challenge that i knew lay ahead.
When faced with an association that few wanted to help and a mountain of debt most of which was hidden from members i knew it was going to be a thankless task. On top of the £16,925 deficit, we also had rents that were not paid to owners of around £9,000. Secretaries that were also a year behind in their payment dues i.e. £24,500 of costs and VAT which the then secretaries (who were chartered accountants) were claiming, but should not have been claiming, which amounted to £12,967 most of which was due prior to ourselves taking over the management. All this debt totalled £63,392.
In the short space of just “two years” most of this mountain of debt was paid back and we produced a surplus of £6,000. On the third year we paid back the £12,967 of VAT due. Ironically it was i who pointed out to the then professional secretaries that they were claiming VAT that they should not claim. I was told by the then Vice chairman of the LLAIA that i was a mechanic and leave that to the chartered accountants who know more about this than i could ever know?
One would have thought that the huge efforts by the committee and i would be admired or perhaps at the very least our efforts (bearing in mind we were all bailiffing freely with no charge to the llaia) would be appreciated by all concerned. Apparently not! The VOLDAC committee for some strange reason attempted to remove me as chairman and replace me with a man that sat on the committee that had failed and produced the huge mountain of debt!!
Members will not be surprised to learn that one of the two proposers for the removal of myself as chairman was none other than Stuart Ingles, the man chosen by the VOLDAC committee to be their representative in 2007 and who has since caused most of the problems leading to the resignations of my whole committee.
In addition to this It is deplorable that some anglers some of whom are not even members of our association but leven permit holders, can attack us and accuse the committee and i of all manner of things and somehow expect us not to feel angry and disillusioned at the lies and venom that these people have for the LLAIA and its elected committee. Their reason for such attacks particularly on me is because i don’t agree and neither does the committee with their aspirations of making deeper holding pools on the leven with Croys in order that leven anglers can catch the vast majority of fish and leave the loch man and those that fish the tributaries with very little fish to catch.
The committee have had enough and they have all resigned, naturally i have reluctantly followed suit.
One of the reasons that i initially went on to the committee of the LLAIA was because of the warmth and welcome i received ironically from the VOLDAC and its members when i first came to fish Loch Lomond. Some of these guys gave me trolling rests for free; others gave me helpful advice and generally made me feel so welcome. I had a great sense of respect and appreciation for that kindness and thought by going on to the committee of the LLAIA i could repay that friendship by helping the association survive and prosper. Sadly now it seems some of them want to attempt again to replace me as chairman. Now i find that all the sacrifices that we made will be wasted if another committee take over and from what i have heard so far, this will end in disaster for sure.
Hopefully common sense will prevail and those on the VOLDAC committee will realise that the llaia committee has acted in the best interests of the LLAIA at all times and occasionally some things don’t get done in the way they would like and if people act in a manner that puts the LLAIA in danger then they will be treated the same as any other LLAIA member whether they are also a member of VOLDAC or not.
If a solution to the problem cannot be achieved then i have absolutely no doubt it will be the end of the association and suddenly those with boats on Loch Lomond will begin to realise……. what is the point.
So i resign saddened as the LLAIA has now been brought to its knees just when it was doing so well and everything starting to come together nicely.
Yours Michael Brady
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Euan McGrandle’s letter of resignation.
Please accept this email as my letter of resignation from the LLAIA committee. I fully support the reasons for resigning.
Euan McGrandle
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What is to happen now with the LLAIA? ……………………………..There will be a NEWSLETTER going out to members in the next few days.
One way or another if members want to see the LLAIA destroyed then they can sit at home and watch all the great work done over the last 12 years go to ruin or they can attend the next meeting and THEN decide what the future will be for their fishings and the LLAIA.
Secretary Michael Brady